{"id":"sn12.30","title":"Ascetics and Brahmins (2nd)","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Sujato · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"sn12.30","title":"Ascetics and Brahmins (2nd)","units":[{"id":"sn12.30:0","sourceIds":["sn12.30:0.1","sn12.30:0.2","sn12.30:0.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Saṁyutta Nikāya 12.30\n3. Dasabalavagga\nDutiyasamaṇabrāhmaṇasutta","en":"Linked Discourses 12.30\n3. The Ten Powers\nAscetics and Brahmins (2nd)"}},{"id":"sn12.30:1","sourceIds":["sn12.30:1.1","sn12.30:1.2","sn12.30:1.3","sn12.30:1.4","sn12.30:1.5","sn12.30:1.6","sn12.30:1.7","sn12.30:1.8","sn12.30:1.9","sn12.30:1.10","sn12.30:1.11","sn12.30:1.12","sn12.30:1.13"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Sāvatthiyaṁ viharati.\n“Tatra kho …pe…\nye hi keci, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā jarāmaraṇaṁ nappajānanti, jarāmaraṇasamudayaṁ nappajānanti, jarāmaraṇanirodhaṁ nappajānanti, jarāmaraṇanirodhagāminiṁ paṭipadaṁ nappajānanti te vata jarāmaraṇaṁ samatikkamma ṭhassantīti netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati.\nJātiṁ nappajānanti …pe…\nbhavaṁ …\nupādānaṁ …\ntaṇhaṁ …\nvedanaṁ …\nphassaṁ …\nsaḷāyatanaṁ …\nnāmarūpaṁ …\nviññāṇaṁ …\nsaṅkhāre nappajānanti, saṅkhārasamudayaṁ nappajānanti, saṅkhāranirodhaṁ nappajānanti, saṅkhāranirodhagāminiṁ paṭipadaṁ nappajānanti te vata saṅkhāre samatikkamma ṭhassantīti netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati.","en":"At Sāvatthī.\n“Mendicants, there are ascetics and brahmins who don’t understand old age and death, their origin, their cessation, and the practice that leads to their cessation. It’s impossible that they will abide having transcended old age and death.\nThey don’t understand rebirth …\ncontinued existence …\ngrasping …\ncraving …\nfeeling …\ncontact …\nthe six sense fields …\nname and form …\nconsciousness …\nThey don’t understand choices, their origin, their cessation, and the practice that leads to their cessation. It’s impossible that they will abide having transcended choices."}},{"id":"sn12.30:2","sourceIds":["sn12.30:2.1","sn12.30:2.2","sn12.30:2.3","sn12.30:2.4","sn12.30:2.5","sn12.30:2.6","sn12.30:2.7","sn12.30:2.8","sn12.30:2.9","sn12.30:2.10","sn12.30:2.11","sn12.30:2.12","sn12.30:2.13","sn12.30:2.14"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Ye ca kho keci, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā jarāmaraṇaṁ pajānanti, jarāmaraṇasamudayaṁ pajānanti, jarāmaraṇanirodhaṁ pajānanti, jarāmaraṇanirodhagāminiṁ paṭipadaṁ pajānanti te vata jarāmaraṇaṁ samatikkamma ṭhassantīti ṭhānametaṁ vijjati.\nJātiṁ pajānanti …pe…\nbhavaṁ …\nupādānaṁ …\ntaṇhaṁ …\nvedanaṁ …\nphassaṁ …\nsaḷāyatanaṁ …\nnāmarūpaṁ …\nviññāṇaṁ …\nsaṅkhāre pajānanti, saṅkhārasamudayaṁ pajānanti, saṅkhāranirodhaṁ pajānanti, saṅkhāranirodhagāminiṁ paṭipadaṁ pajānanti.\nTe vata saṅkhāre samatikkamma ṭhassantīti ṭhānametaṁ vijjatī”ti.\nDasamaṁ.\nDasabalavaggo tatiyo.","en":"There are ascetics and brahmins who do understand old age and death, their origin, their cessation, and the practice that leads to their cessation. It’s possible that they will abide having transcended old age and death.\nThey understand rebirth …\ncontinued existence …\ngrasping …\ncraving …\nfeeling …\ncontact …\nthe six sense fields …\nname and form …\nconsciousness …\nThey understand choices, their origin, their cessation, and the practice that leads to their cessation.\nIt’s possible that they will abide having transcended choices.”"}},{"id":"sn12.30:3","sourceIds":["sn12.30:3.0","sn12.30:3.1","sn12.30:3.2","sn12.30:3.3","sn12.30:3.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tassuddānaṁ\nDve dasabalā upanisā ca,\nAññatitthiyabhūmijo;\nUpavāṇo paccayo bhikkhu,\nDve ca samaṇabrāhmaṇāti."}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/sn12.30/en/sujato","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}