{"id":"sn12.36","title":"Ignorance is a Requirement (2nd)","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Sujato · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"sn12.36","title":"Ignorance is a Requirement (2nd)","units":[{"id":"sn12.36:0","sourceIds":["sn12.36:0.1","sn12.36:0.2","sn12.36:0.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Saṁyutta Nikāya 12.36\n4. Kaḷārakhattiyavagga\nDutiyaavijjāpaccayasutta","en":"Linked Discourses 12.36\n4. Kaḷāra the Aristocrat\nIgnorance is a Requirement (2nd)"}},{"id":"sn12.36:1","sourceIds":["sn12.36:1.1","sn12.36:1.2","sn12.36:1.3","sn12.36:1.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Sāvatthiyaṁ viharati.\n“Avijjāpaccayā, bhikkhave, saṅkhārā;\nsaṅkhārapaccayā viññāṇaṁ …pe…\nevametassa kevalassa dukkhakkhandhassa samudayo hoti.","en":"At Sāvatthī.\n“Ignorance is a requirement for choices.\nChoices are a requirement for consciousness. …\nThat is how this entire mass of suffering originates."}},{"id":"sn12.36:2","sourceIds":["sn12.36:2.1","sn12.36:2.2","sn12.36:2.3","sn12.36:2.4","sn12.36:2.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"‘Katamaṁ jarāmaraṇaṁ, kassa ca panidaṁ jarāmaraṇan’ti iti vā, bhikkhave, yo vadeyya, ‘aññaṁ jarāmaraṇaṁ, aññassa ca panidaṁ jarāmaraṇan’ti iti vā, bhikkhave, yo vadeyya, ubhayametaṁ ekatthaṁ byañjanameva nānaṁ.\n‘Taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīraṁ’ iti vā, bhikkhave, diṭṭhiyā sati brahmacariyavāso na hoti.\n‘Aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīraṁ’ iti vā, bhikkhave, diṭṭhiyā sati brahmacariyavāso na hoti.\nEte te, bhikkhave, ubho ante anupagamma majjhena tathāgato dhammaṁ deseti:\n‘jātipaccayā jarāmaraṇan’ti.","en":"Mendicants, you might say, ‘What are old age and death, and who do they belong to?’ Or you might say, ‘Old age and death are one thing, who they belong to is another.’ But both of these mean the same thing, only the phrasing differs.\nIf you have the view that the soul and the body are one and the same, there is no living of the spiritual life.\nIf you have the view that the soul is one thing, the body another, there is no living of the spiritual life.\nAvoiding these two extremes, the Realized One teaches by the middle way:\n‘Rebirth is a requirement for old age and death.’"}},{"id":"sn12.36:3","sourceIds":["sn12.36:3.1","sn12.36:3.2","sn12.36:3.3","sn12.36:3.4","sn12.36:3.5","sn12.36:3.6","sn12.36:3.7","sn12.36:3.8","sn12.36:3.9","sn12.36:3.10","sn12.36:3.11","sn12.36:3.12","sn12.36:3.13","sn12.36:3.14"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Katamā jāti …pe…\nkatamo bhavo …\nkatamaṁ upādānaṁ …\nkatamā taṇhā …\nkatamā vedanā …\nkatamo phasso …\nkatamaṁ saḷāyatanaṁ …\nkatamaṁ nāmarūpaṁ …\nkatamaṁ viññāṇaṁ …\nkatame saṅkhārā, kassa ca panime saṅkhārāti iti vā, bhikkhave, yo vadeyya, ‘aññe saṅkhārā aññassa ca panime saṅkhārā’ti iti vā, bhikkhave, yo vadeyya, ubhayametaṁ ekatthaṁ byañjanameva nānaṁ.\n‘Taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīraṁ’ iti vā, bhikkhave, diṭṭhiyā sati brahmacariyavāso na hoti.\n‘Aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīraṁ’ iti vā, bhikkhave, diṭṭhiyā sati brahmacariyavāso na hoti.\nEte te, bhikkhave, ubho ante anupagamma majjhena tathāgato dhammaṁ deseti:\n‘avijjāpaccayā saṅkhārā’ti.","en":"‘What is rebirth …’\n‘What is continued existence …’\n‘What is grasping …’\n‘What is craving …’\n‘What is feeling …’\n‘What is contact …’\n‘What are the six sense fields …’\n‘What are name and form …’\n‘What is consciousness …’\nYou might say, ‘What are choices, and who do they belong to?’ Or you might say, ‘Choices are one thing, who they belong to is another.’ But both of these mean the same thing, only the phrasing differs.\nIf you have the view that the soul and the body are one and the same, there is no living of the spiritual life.\nIf you have the view that the soul is one thing, the body another, there is no living of the spiritual life.\nAvoiding these two extremes, the Realized One teaches by the middle way:\n‘Ignorance is a requirement for choices.’"}},{"id":"sn12.36:4","sourceIds":["sn12.36:4.1","sn12.36:4.2","sn12.36:4.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Avijjāya tveva, bhikkhave, asesavirāganirodhā yānissa tāni visūkāyikāni visevitāni vipphanditāni kānici kānici.\n‘Katamaṁ jarāmaraṇaṁ, kassa ca panidaṁ jarāmaraṇaṁ’ iti vā, ‘aññaṁ jarāmaraṇaṁ, aññassa ca panidaṁ jarāmaraṇaṁ’ iti vā, ‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīraṁ’ iti vā, ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ, aññaṁ sarīraṁ’ iti vā.\nSabbānissa tāni pahīnāni bhavanti ucchinnamūlāni tālāvatthukatāni anabhāvaṅkatāni āyatiṁ anuppādadhammāni.","en":"When ignorance fades away and ceases with no residue left behind, then any twists, ducks, and dodges are given up:\n‘What are old age and death, and who do they belong to?’ or ‘old age and death are one thing, who they belong to is another’, or ‘the soul and the body are one and the same’, or ‘the soul is one thing, the body another’.\nThese are all cut off at the root, made like a palm stump, obliterated, and unable to arise in the future."}},{"id":"sn12.36:5","sourceIds":["sn12.36:5.1","sn12.36:5.2","sn12.36:5.3","sn12.36:5.4","sn12.36:5.5","sn12.36:5.6","sn12.36:5.7","sn12.36:5.8","sn12.36:5.9","sn12.36:5.10","sn12.36:5.11","sn12.36:5.12","sn12.36:5.13"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Avijjāya tveva, bhikkhave, asesavirāganirodhā yānissa tāni visūkāyikāni visevitāni vipphanditāni kānici kānici.\nKatamā jāti …pe…\nkatamo bhavo …\nkatamaṁ upādānaṁ …\nkatamā taṇhā …\nkatamā vedanā …\nkatamo phasso …\nkatamaṁ saḷāyatanaṁ …\nkatamaṁ nāmarūpaṁ …\nkatamaṁ viññāṇaṁ …\n‘katame saṅkhārā, kassa ca panime saṅkhārā’ iti vā, ‘aññe saṅkhārā, aññassa ca panime saṅkhārā’ iti vā; ‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīraṁ’ iti vā, ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīraṁ’ iti vā.\nSabbānissa tāni pahīnāni bhavanti ucchinnamūlāni tālāvatthukatāni anabhāvaṅkatāni āyatiṁ anuppādadhammānī”ti.\nChaṭṭhaṁ.","en":"When ignorance fades away and ceases with no residue left behind, then any twists, ducks, and dodges are given up:\n‘What is rebirth …’\n‘What is continued existence …’\n‘What is grasping …’\n‘What is craving …’\n‘What is feeling …’\n‘What is contact …’\n‘What are the six sense fields …’\n‘What are name and form …’\n‘What is consciousness …’\n‘What are choices, and who do they belong to?’ or ‘choices are one thing, who they belong to is another’, or ‘the soul and the body are one and the same’, or ‘the soul is one thing, the body another’.\nThese are all cut off at the root, made like a palm stump, obliterated, and unable to arise in the future.”"}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/sn12.36/en/sujato","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}