{"id":"sn22.3","title":"With Hāliddikāni","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Sujato · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"sn22.3","title":"With Hāliddikāni","units":[{"id":"sn22.3:0","sourceIds":["sn22.3:0.1","sn22.3:0.2","sn22.3:0.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Saṁyutta Nikāya 22.3\n1. Nakulapituvagga\nHāliddikānisutta","en":"Linked Discourses 22.3\n1. Nakula’s Father\nWith Hāliddikāni"}},{"id":"sn22.3:1","sourceIds":["sn22.3:1.1","sn22.3:1.2","sn22.3:1.3","sn22.3:1.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Evaṁ me sutaṁ—\nekaṁ samayaṁ āyasmā mahākaccāno avantīsu viharati kuraraghare papāte pabbate.\nAtha kho hāliddikāni gahapati yenāyasmā mahākaccāno tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā āyasmantaṁ mahākaccānaṁ abhivādetvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi. Ekamantaṁ nisinno kho hāliddikāni gahapati āyasmantaṁ mahākaccānaṁ etadavoca:\n“vuttamidaṁ, bhante, bhagavatā aṭṭhakavaggiye māgaṇḍiyapañhe:","en":"So I have heard.\nAt one time Venerable Mahākaccāna was staying in the land of the Avantis near Kuraraghara on Steep Mountain.\nThen the householder Hāliddikāni went up to Venerable Mahākaccāna, bowed, sat down to one side, and said to him,\n“Sir, this was said by the Buddha in the Chapter of the Eights, in ‘The Questions of Māgandiya’:"}},{"id":"sn22.3:2","sourceIds":["sn22.3:2.1","sn22.3:2.2","sn22.3:2.3","sn22.3:2.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"‘Okaṁ pahāya aniketasārī,\nGāme akubbaṁ muni santhavāni;\nKāmehi ritto apurakkharāno,\nKathaṁ na viggayha janena kayirā’ti.","en":"‘After leaving their bastion to migrate without abode,\na sage doesn’t get close to anyone in town.\nRid of sensual pleasures, not expecting,\nthey wouldn’t get in arguments with people.’"}},{"id":"sn22.3:3","sourceIds":["sn22.3:3.1"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Imassa nu kho, bhante, bhagavatā saṅkhittena bhāsitassa kathaṁ vitthārena attho daṭṭhabbo”ti?","en":"How should we see the detailed meaning of the Buddha’s brief statement?”"}},{"id":"sn22.3:4","sourceIds":["sn22.3:4.1","sn22.3:4.2","sn22.3:4.3","sn22.3:4.4","sn22.3:4.5","sn22.3:4.6","sn22.3:4.7","sn22.3:4.8","sn22.3:4.9"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Rūpadhātu kho, gahapati, viññāṇassa oko.\nRūpadhāturāgavinibandhañca pana viññāṇaṁ ‘okasārī’ti vuccati.\nVedanādhātu kho, gahapati, viññāṇassa oko.\nVedanādhāturāgavinibandhañca pana viññāṇaṁ ‘okasārī’ti vuccati.\nSaññādhātu kho, gahapati, viññāṇassa oko.\nSaññādhāturāgavinibandhañca pana viññāṇaṁ ‘okasārī’ti vuccati.\nSaṅkhāradhātu kho, gahapati, viññāṇassa oko.\nSaṅkhāradhāturāgavinibandhañca pana viññāṇaṁ ‘okasārī’ti vuccati.\nEvaṁ kho, gahapati, okasārī hoti.","en":"“Householder, the form element is a bastion for consciousness.\nOne whose consciousness is shackled by greed for the form element is called a migrant going from bastion to bastion.\nThe feeling element is a bastion for consciousness.\nOne whose consciousness is shackled to greed for the feeling element is called a migrant going from bastion to bastion.\nThe perception element is a bastion for consciousness.\nOne whose consciousness is shackled to greed for the perception element is called a migrant going from bastion to bastion.\nThe choices element is a bastion for consciousness.\nOne whose consciousness is shackled to greed for the choices element is called a migrant going from bastion to bastion.\nThat’s how one is a migrant going from  bastion to bastion."}},{"id":"sn22.3:5","sourceIds":["sn22.3:5.1","sn22.3:5.2","sn22.3:5.3","sn22.3:5.4","sn22.3:5.5","sn22.3:5.6","sn22.3:5.7","sn22.3:5.8","sn22.3:5.9"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Kathañca, gahapati, anokasārī hoti?\nRūpadhātuyā kho, gahapati, yo chando yo rāgo yā nandī yā taṇhā ye upayupādānā cetaso adhiṭṭhānābhinivesānusayā te tathāgatassa pahīnā ucchinnamūlā tālāvatthukatā anabhāvaṅkatā āyatiṁ anuppādadhammā.\nTasmā tathāgato ‘anokasārī’ti vuccati.\nVedanādhātuyā kho, gahapati …\nsaññādhātuyā kho, gahapati …\nsaṅkhāradhātuyā kho, gahapati …\nviññāṇadhātuyā kho, gahapati, yo chando yo rāgo yā nandī yā taṇhā ye upayupādānā cetaso adhiṭṭhānābhinivesānusayā te tathāgatassa pahīnā ucchinnamūlā tālāvatthukatā anabhāvaṅkatā āyatiṁ anuppādadhammā.\nTasmā tathāgato ‘anokasārī’ti vuccati.\nEvaṁ kho, gahapati, anokasārī hoti.","en":"And how is one a migrant with no bastion?\nThe Realized One has given up any desire, greed, relishing, and craving for the form element; any attraction, grasping, mental fixation, insistence, and underlying tendencies. He has cut it off at the root, made it like a palm stump, obliterated it, so it’s unable to arise in the future.\nThat’s why the Realized One is called a migrant with no bastion.\nThe Realized One has given up any desire, greed, relishing, and craving for the feeling element …\nthe perception element …\nthe choices element …\nthe consciousness element; any attraction, grasping, mental fixation, insistence, and underlying tendencies. He has cut it off at the root, made it like a palm stump, obliterated it, so it’s unable to arise in the future.\nThat’s why the Realized One is called a migrant with no bastion.\nThat’s how one is a migrant with no bastion."}},{"id":"sn22.3:6","sourceIds":["sn22.3:6.1","sn22.3:6.2","sn22.3:6.3","sn22.3:6.4","sn22.3:6.5","sn22.3:6.6","sn22.3:6.7","sn22.3:6.8"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Kathañca, gahapati, niketasārī hoti?\nRūpanimittaniketavisāravinibandhā kho, gahapati, ‘niketasārī’ti vuccati.\nSaddanimitta …pe…\ngandhanimitta …\nrasanimitta …\nphoṭṭhabbanimitta …\ndhammanimittaniketavisāravinibandhā kho, gahapati, ‘niketasārī’ti vuccati.\nEvaṁ kho, gahapati, niketasārī hoti.","en":"And how is one a migrant going from abode to abode?\nShackled to chasing the abodes that are the features of sights, one is called a migrant going from abode to abode.\nShackled to chasing the abodes that are the features of sounds …\nsmells …\ntastes …\ntouches …\nthoughts, one is called a migrant going from abode to abode.\nThat’s how one is a migrant going from abode to abode."}},{"id":"sn22.3:7","sourceIds":["sn22.3:7.1","sn22.3:7.2","sn22.3:7.3","sn22.3:7.4","sn22.3:7.5","sn22.3:7.6","sn22.3:7.7","sn22.3:7.8","sn22.3:7.9","sn22.3:7.10"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Kathañca, gahapati, aniketasārī hoti?\nRūpanimittaniketavisāravinibandhā kho, gahapati, tathāgatassa pahīnā ucchinnamūlā tālāvatthukatā anabhāvaṅkatā āyatiṁ anuppādadhammā.\nTasmā tathāgato ‘aniketasārī’ti vuccati.\nSaddanimitta …\ngandhanimitta …\nrasanimitta …\nphoṭṭhabbanimitta …\ndhammanimittaniketavisāravinibandhā kho, gahapati, tathāgatassa pahīnā ucchinnamūlā tālāvatthukatā anabhāvaṅkatā āyatiṁ anuppādadhammā.\nTasmā tathāgato ‘aniketasārī’ti vuccati.\nEvaṁ kho, gahapati, aniketasārī hoti.","en":"And how is one a migrant without abode?\nThe Realized One has given up being shackled to chasing the abodes that are the features of  sights. He has cut it off at the root, made it like a palm stump, obliterated it, so it’s unable to arise in the future.\nThat’s why the Realized One is called a migrant without abode.\nThe Realized One has given up being shackled to chasing the abodes that are the features of sounds …\nsmells …\ntastes …\ntouches …\nideas. He has cut it off at the root, made it like a palm stump, obliterated it, so it’s unable to arise in the future.\nThat’s why the Realized One is called a migrant without abode.\nThat’s how one is a migrant without abode."}},{"id":"sn22.3:8","sourceIds":["sn22.3:8.1","sn22.3:8.2","sn22.3:8.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Kathañca, gahapati, gāme santhavajāto hoti?\nIdha, gahapati, ekacco gihīhi saṁsaṭṭho viharati sahanandī sahasokī, sukhitesu sukhito, dukkhitesu dukkhito, uppannesu kiccakaraṇīyesu attanā tesu yogaṁ āpajjati.\nEvaṁ kho, gahapati, gāme santhavajāto hoti.","en":"And how does one get close to people in town?\nIt’s when someone mixes closely with laypeople, sharing their joys and sorrows—happy when they’re happy and sad when they’re sad—and getting themselves involved in their business.\nThat’s how one gets close to people in town."}},{"id":"sn22.3:9","sourceIds":["sn22.3:9.1","sn22.3:9.2","sn22.3:9.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Kathañca, gahapati, gāme na santhavajāto hoti?\nIdha, gahapati, bhikkhu gihīhi asaṁsaṭṭho viharati na sahanandī na sahasokī na sukhitesu sukhito na dukkhitesu dukkhito, uppannesu kiccakaraṇīyesu na attanā tesu yogaṁ āpajjati.\nEvaṁ kho, gahapati, gāme na santhavajāto hoti.","en":"And how does one not get close to people in town?\nIt’s when a mendicant doesn’t mix closely with laypeople, not sharing their joys and sorrows—not happy when they’re happy or sad when they’re sad—and not getting themselves involved in their business.\nThat’s how one doesn’t get close to people in town."}},{"id":"sn22.3:10","sourceIds":["sn22.3:10.1","sn22.3:10.2","sn22.3:10.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Kathañca, gahapati, kāmehi aritto hoti?\nIdha, gahapati, ekacco kāmesu avigatarāgo hoti avigatacchando avigatapemo avigatapipāso avigatapariḷāho avigatataṇho.\nEvaṁ kho, gahapati, kāmehi aritto hoti.","en":"And how is one not rid of sensual pleasures?\nIt’s when someone isn’t rid of greed, desire, fondness, thirst, passion, and craving for sensual pleasures.\nThat’s how one is not rid of sensual pleasures."}},{"id":"sn22.3:11","sourceIds":["sn22.3:11.1","sn22.3:11.2","sn22.3:11.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Kathañca, gahapati, kāmehi ritto hoti?\nIdha, gahapati, ekacco kāmesu vigatarāgo hoti vigatacchando vigatapemo vigatapipāso vigatapariḷāho vigatataṇho.\nEvaṁ kho, gahapati, kāmehi ritto hoti.","en":"And how is one rid of sensual pleasures?\nIt’s when someone is rid of greed, desire, fondness, thirst, passion, and craving for sensual pleasures.\nThat’s how one is rid of sensual pleasures."}},{"id":"sn22.3:12","sourceIds":["sn22.3:12.1","sn22.3:12.2","sn22.3:12.3","sn22.3:12.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Kathañca, gahapati, purakkharāno hoti?\nIdha, gahapati, ekaccassa evaṁ hoti:\n‘evaṁrūpo siyaṁ anāgatamaddhānaṁ, evaṁvedano siyaṁ anāgatamaddhānaṁ, evaṁsañño siyaṁ anāgatamaddhānaṁ, evaṁsaṅkhāro siyaṁ anāgatamaddhānaṁ, evaṁviññāṇo siyaṁ anāgatamaddhānan’ti.\nEvaṁ kho, gahapati, purakkharāno hoti.","en":"And how is one expecting?\nIt’s when someone thinks:\n‘In the future, may I be of such form, such feeling, such perception, such choices, and such consciousness!’\nThat’s how one is expecting."}},{"id":"sn22.3:13","sourceIds":["sn22.3:13.1","sn22.3:13.2","sn22.3:13.3","sn22.3:13.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Kathañca, gahapati, apurakkharāno hoti?\nIdha, gahapati, ekaccassa na evaṁ hoti:\n‘evaṁrūpo siyaṁ anāgatamaddhānaṁ, evaṁvedano siyaṁ anāgatamaddhānaṁ, evaṁsañño siyaṁ anāgatamaddhānaṁ, evaṁsaṅkhāro siyaṁ anāgatamaddhānaṁ, evaṁviññāṇo siyaṁ anāgatamaddhānan’ti.\nEvaṁ kho, gahapati, apurakkharāno hoti.","en":"And how is one not expecting?\nIt’s when someone doesn’t think:\n‘In the future, may I be of such form, such feeling, such perception, such choices, and such consciousness!’\nThat’s how one is not expecting."}},{"id":"sn22.3:14","sourceIds":["sn22.3:14.1","sn22.3:14.2","sn22.3:14.3","sn22.3:14.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Kathañca, gahapati, kathaṁ viggayha janena kattā hoti?\nIdha, gahapati, ekacco evarūpiṁ kathaṁ kattā hoti:\n‘na tvaṁ imaṁ dhammavinayaṁ ājānāsi; ahaṁ imaṁ dhammavinayaṁ ājānāmi. Kiṁ tvaṁ imaṁ dhammavinayaṁ ājānissasi? Micchāpaṭipanno tvamasi; ahamasmi sammāpaṭipanno. Pure vacanīyaṁ pacchā avaca; pacchā vacanīyaṁ pure avaca. Sahitaṁ me, asahitaṁ te. Adhiciṇṇaṁ te viparāvattaṁ. Āropito te vādo; cara vādappamokkhāya. Niggahitosi; nibbeṭhehi vā sace pahosī’ti.\nEvaṁ kho, gahapati, kathaṁ viggayha janena kattā hoti.","en":"And how does one argue with people?\nIt’s when someone takes part in this sort of discussion:\n‘You don’t understand this teaching and training. I understand this teaching and training. What, you understand this teaching and training? You’re practicing wrong. I’m practicing right. You said last what you should have said first. You said first what you should have said last. I stay on topic, you don’t. What you’ve thought so much about has been disproved. Your doctrine is refuted. Go on, save your doctrine! You’re trapped; get yourself out of this—if you can!’\nThat’s how one argues with people."}},{"id":"sn22.3:15","sourceIds":["sn22.3:15.1","sn22.3:15.2","sn22.3:15.3","sn22.3:15.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Kathañca, gahapati, kathaṁ na viggayha janena kattā hoti?\nIdha, gahapati, bhikkhu na evarūpiṁ kathaṁ kattā hoti:\n‘na tvaṁ imaṁ dhammavinayaṁ ājānāsi …pe… nibbeṭhehi vā sace pahosī’ti.\nEvaṁ kho, gahapati, kathaṁ na viggayha janena kattā hoti.","en":"And how does one not argue with people?\nIt’s when a mendicant doesn’t take part in this sort of discussion:\n‘You don’t understand this teaching and training … get yourself out of this—if you can!’\nThat’s how one doesn’t argue with people."}},{"id":"sn22.3:16","sourceIds":["sn22.3:16.1"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Iti kho, gahapati, yaṁ taṁ vuttaṁ bhagavatā aṭṭhakavaggiye māgaṇḍiyapañhe:","en":"So, householder, that’s how to understand the detailed meaning of what the Buddha said in brief in the Chapter of the Eights, in ‘The Questions of Māgandiya’:"}},{"id":"sn22.3:17","sourceIds":["sn22.3:17.1","sn22.3:17.2","sn22.3:17.3","sn22.3:17.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"‘Okaṁ pahāya aniketasārī,\nGāme akubbaṁ munisanthavāni;\nKāmehi ritto apurakkharāno,\nKathaṁ na viggayha janena kayirā’ti.","en":"‘After leaving their bastion to migrate without abode,\na sage doesn’t get close to anyone in town.\nRid of sensual pleasures, not expecting,\nthey wouldn’t get in arguments with people.’”"}},{"id":"sn22.3:18","sourceIds":["sn22.3:18.1","sn22.3:18.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Imassa kho, gahapati, bhagavatā saṅkhittena bhāsitassa evaṁ vitthārena attho daṭṭhabbo”ti.\nTatiyaṁ."}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/sn22.3/en/sujato","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}