{"id":"sn24.18","title":"A Realized One Neither Still Exists Nor No Longer Exists","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Sujato · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"sn24.18","title":"A Realized One Neither Still Exists Nor No Longer Exists","units":[{"id":"sn24.18:0","sourceIds":["sn24.18:0.1","sn24.18:0.2","sn24.18:0.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Saṁyutta Nikāya 24.18\n1. Sotāpattivagga\nNevahotinanahotitathāgatosutta","en":"Linked Discourses 24.18\n1. Stream-Entry\nA Realized One Neither Still Exists Nor No Longer Exists"}},{"id":"sn24.18:1","sourceIds":["sn24.18:1.1","sn24.18:1.2","sn24.18:1.3","sn24.18:1.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Sāvatthinidānaṁ.\n“Kismiṁ nu kho, bhikkhave, sati, kiṁ upādāya, kiṁ abhinivissa evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjati:\n‘neva hoti, na na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā’”ti?\n“Bhagavaṁmūlakā no, bhante, dhammā …pe…","en":"At Sāvatthī.\n“Mendicants, when what exists, because of grasping what and insisting on what, does the view arise:\n‘A realized one neither still exists nor no longer exists after death’?”\n“Our teachings are rooted in the Buddha. …”"}},{"id":"sn24.18:2","sourceIds":["sn24.18:2.1","sn24.18:2.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Rūpe kho, bhikkhave, sati, rūpaṁ upādāya, rūpaṁ abhinivissa evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjati:\n‘neva hoti, na na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā’”ti …pe….","en":"“When form exists, because of grasping form and insisting on form, the view arises:\n‘A realized one neither still exists nor no longer exists after death’ …"}},{"id":"sn24.18:3","sourceIds":["sn24.18:3.1","sn24.18:3.2","sn24.18:3.3","sn24.18:3.4","sn24.18:3.5","sn24.18:3.6","sn24.18:3.7","sn24.18:3.8","sn24.18:3.9","sn24.18:3.10","sn24.18:3.11","sn24.18:3.12","sn24.18:3.13"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Taṁ kiṁ maññatha, bhikkhave,\nrūpaṁ niccaṁ vā aniccaṁ vā”ti?\n“Aniccaṁ, bhante” …pe…\nvipariṇāmadhammaṁ, api nu taṁ anupādāya evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjeyya:\n‘neva hoti, na na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā’”ti?\n“No hetaṁ, bhante”.\n“Yampidaṁ diṭṭhaṁ sutaṁ mutaṁ viññātaṁ pattaṁ pariyesitaṁ anuvicaritaṁ manasā tampi niccaṁ vā aniccaṁ vā”ti?\n“Aniccaṁ, bhante”.\n“Yaṁ panāniccaṁ dukkhaṁ vā taṁ sukhaṁ vā”ti?\n“Dukkhaṁ, bhante”.\n“Yaṁ panāniccaṁ dukkhaṁ vipariṇāmadhammaṁ, api nu taṁ anupādāya evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjeyya:\n‘neva hoti, na na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā’”ti?\n“No hetaṁ, bhante”.","en":"What do you think, mendicants?\nIs form permanent or impermanent?”\n“Impermanent, sir.” …\n“But by not grasping what’s impermanent, suffering, and perishable, would the view arise:\n‘A realized one neither still exists nor no longer exists after death’?”\n“No, sir.”\n“That which is seen, heard, thought, known, attained, sought, and explored by the mind: is that permanent or impermanent?”\n“Impermanent, sir.”\n“But if it’s impermanent, is it suffering or happiness?”\n“Suffering, sir.”\n“But by not grasping what’s impermanent, suffering, and perishable, would the view arise:\n‘A realized one neither still exists nor no longer exists after death’?”\n“No, sir.”"}},{"id":"sn24.18:4","sourceIds":["sn24.18:4.1","sn24.18:4.2","sn24.18:4.3","sn24.18:4.4","sn24.18:4.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Yato kho, bhikkhave, ariyasāvakassa imesu ca ṭhānesu kaṅkhā pahīnā hoti, dukkhepissa kaṅkhā pahīnā hoti, dukkhasamudayepissa kaṅkhā pahīnā hoti, dukkhanirodhepissa kaṅkhā pahīnā hoti, dukkhanirodhagāminiyā paṭipadāyapissa kaṅkhā pahīnā hoti—\nayaṁ vuccati, bhikkhave, ariyasāvako sotāpanno avinipātadhammo niyato sambodhiparāyano”ti.\nAṭṭhārasamaṁ.\nSotāpattivaggo.\nAṭṭhārasaveyyākaraṇaṁ niṭṭhitaṁ.","en":"“When a noble disciple has given up doubt regarding these six grounds, and has given up doubt in suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the practice that leads to its cessation,\nthey’re called a noble disciple who is a stream-enterer, not liable to be reborn in the underworld, assured, destined for awakening.”"}},{"id":"sn24.18:5","sourceIds":["sn24.18:5.0","sn24.18:5.1","sn24.18:5.2","sn24.18:5.3","sn24.18:5.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tassuddānaṁ\nVātaṁ etaṁ mama,\nso attā no ca me siyā;\nNatthi karoto hetu ca,\nmahādiṭṭhena aṭṭhamaṁ."}},{"id":"sn24.18:6","sourceIds":["sn24.18:6.1","sn24.18:6.2","sn24.18:6.3","sn24.18:6.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Sassato loko ca,\nAsassato ca antavā ca;\nAnantavā ca taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīranti,\nAññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīranti ca."}},{"id":"sn24.18:7","sourceIds":["sn24.18:7.1","sn24.18:7.2","sn24.18:7.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇāti,\nNa hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇāti;\nNeva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇāti."}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/sn24.18/en/sujato","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}